New 2013 Husaberg Models – What is coming
Chilly | Apr 13, 2012 | Comments 49
Big Changes Expected For 2013 Husabergs
August 7th Update – New Models Announced! Follow this link:
2013 Husaberg Model Announcement
April 23 Update: As the discussion continues about the future of Husaberg, there are a few credible tidbits that are emerging. In the big picture, it looks like Husaberg will change its market position just a little. When the new 2009 models came out, KTM was looking to position Husaberg as premium brand, with extra gadgets to make it the luxury KTM. Now it looks like they may be headed the opposite direction, to position the Bergs as a value/ price point brand.
The two stroke line is already that way, using the previous generation frame and suspension. It looks like that has worked well for sales. This will give KTM the opportunity to have more entry level pricing to compete with some of their heavily discounted competition. So I look for all the models to have only the basic trim package similar to the 2012 XCW line: PDS shock, open chamber forks, cast clamps etc.
Sadly, it looks like other differences will be very minimal. No new displacements. Expect 250,350 twin cam four strokes and a 500cc single cam model. No radical changes for the 250/300 two strokes, but maybe an update to 2012 xcw spec. One possible reasoning for this would be for street legal 350 and 500 models. They would not require new homologation as it already exists for the EXC line.
While most of the info will surface here in the next couple of months. The actual press introduction for the US will be in mid summer. I will be on hand to ride the new models for that event.
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We are starting to hear some of the rumors surrounding the introductions of the new Bergs. For the coming model year there are looking to be some big changes. Information is scarce at the moment, but here is what the speculation looks like:
- The 70 degree motor will be discontinued. It has had some great success, but the introduction of the newer single cam KTM motor has eclipsed it. The KTM motor is far lighter and gives many of the same lightweight feel characteristics that the Husaberg pioneered.
- The Husaberg four stroke line up will now feature KTM motors. Expect new models that will use both the 350 twin cam motor and the 450 single cam motor.
- Like the current two stroke line, the new bikes will be very similar to the KTM models, with a few tweaks to help distinguish the two brands.
Here are some of my personal speculations:
- I would expect larger motor displacements for both motor lines. For example, perhaps the 350 motor will grow to a milder tuned 390. With the single cam look for the 500 (510cc) to become something like a 550. Husaberg has become known for these unique displacements and has had success with larger motors.
- Link or PDS? I am stumped on this one. The PDS would seem to fit the Husaberg image the best. But the link may be viewed by KTM as a premium selling point. Early photos of prototype bikes show linkage.
- Expect other goodies like closed chamber forks and bolt-ons from the Power Parts catalog to continue the image of a premium brand.
Two years ago when Husaberg introduced the two stroke line in Europe, we all kind of scratched our heads in wonder. Would a re-badged 2010 model KTM really sell? Apparently it did. Every Husaberg racer in the world dropped the four stroke in favor of the new two strokes. Race results showed immediate improvement. It probably extended Mike Lafferty’s career. He started posting his best results in years. That was the writing on the wall for the 70 degree motor concept.
The current generation Husaberg will make its goodbyes, leaving a mixed legacy of performance. It brought a new level of handling to the four stroke market. It’s light weight manners were first in class in some ways. Yet, like many non conventional engine designs it seemed to have one draw back for every advantage. It would flick side to side with ease, but it was still a heavy bike and at times felt like a real handful. The work towards mass centralization came at the expense of having the weight sit higher in the frame.
As has been the fate of Husaberg, the biggest technological contribution was probably to the next generation KTM motor, the new single cam 450/500. The design of the Husaberg was a proving ground for the future. It improved upon the then existing design and laid the course for the future.
It is interesting to realize that is just one more example where a non-conventional motor design will go down as a footnote to history instead of being the focal point where all technology started on a new path. Not to imply that it is bad, rather that it simply brings its own shortcomings also. Park it in the museum next to the Cannondale and a few other examples of innovation that ultimately got left behind. Never the less, we would not be where we are today without the ideas that challenged conventional thought and just for that they all deserve our respect.
These are the photos that are floating around the intertube. I am not sure where they originated, so I do not have a photo credit for them:
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Those girls looked like a nice ride.
Don’t mind the look but why would I fork out more hard earned for a blue plastics
Is there any difference other than the obvious between the exc an the new bergs
Because its looking like ktm shot them in the back jealousy hurts
The yellow frame is gone. They’re ruined!
Thanx SikNik for Your kind and much appreciate reply.
In Europe too we have a loto of restrictions…Racing models you buy come with
ridiculous exhaust systems, that you change immediatly with racing kit,
2strokes for life!
Thank U again SikNik!
Davide,
2-strokes are alive and well in the States. Only silly California has the stupid Red / Green sticker law that prohibits riding certain motocyles from April 30 to Oct 1.
2 strokes as well as many 4 strokes don’t meet the ridiculous emission standard that went into effect in 2003. Fortunately it only applies to state & BLM owned property, here in California most forests are Federal so you can ride whatever you want all year. That doesn’t mean that the eco-terrorists aren’t always trying to shut everything down, it’s a constant battle. But for now the sweet smell of premix still permeates the forest!
I think that too Chilly abt Ossa and Jotagas.
Maybe in a near future, due too co2 emission law restrictions, all manufacturers will be forced to invest and develop injected 2t.
No more Jap brands invest in 2 stroke. Yamaha have a 250cc model, the same since 5 or 6 year. Only European do, and i’m pretty happy of that since I like 2t.
Is in the Usa 2t engine still permitted? Or it is admitted only in closed courses?
Thanks
Davide
As for fuel injected 2t bikes, I think they are still a year or two away. I am pretty sure that the Ossa enduro bike will never see production.
I was talking with Xavi Galindo at Romaniacs about some of the Spanish stuff. Ossa and Jotagas enduros will probably never see production.
Me too I’d like to see fuel injected 2 strokes models. On my Berg te250 too. ,)
Ossa did it with a trial bike, but it’s quietly expensive and Ossa sold only few.
Maybe it works fine, but trial are low rpm bikes. Enduro or mx engines works at higher rpm…
Let’s wait and see.
Na all good I’m just repeating what I’ve heard would be nice though. It’ll be interesting to see the first reviews on the 300i ossa fuel injected… 97kg… 300cc Mmmmmmm
Oopps, very sorry for may unreadable english language!
I don’t think will be EFI on a 2stroke bike. No manufacturer did it since till today carburetor is the best solution on a 2 stroke.
I have read a ktm engineer interview about 2013 models presentation and He said that.
No EFI on 2 strokes since is not at mature point today.
sorry for correcting You Nic.
Davide
I’ve heard from a very large dealer in Australia no more 70 degrees just the ktm motor most likely stroked on the 500cc. but with the 2 strokes there’s apparently alot of talk of fuel injection..if they are so much the same as ktm why weren’t they released earlier… It’ doesnt take this long to bang new plastics on a six days..
We just have to wait Aug, 8! with patience…
Interesting news, thanks for the update Davide
Hi guys,
I come from northern Italy. Just spoke today with the dealer where I bought my Berg Te250.
He’s constantly in contact with a marketing man from Ktm (Arnaldo Nicoli).
New models will be presented to international press on Aug 8.
New Bergs will be Ktm my2013, with major features like Ktm six days models with entry
level prices (good news!)
Next year Bergs will remain the same and KTM will invest on Ktm models, then Bergs and so on. Thats the policy.
4 Strokes will loose 70degrees engine adopting single cam ktm engine.
All Bergs models will have 4cs forks, ktm only for six days models.
WILL REMAIN “PDS” on all Enduro models, while Cross ones will have linkage
That’s it guys
look for plastic subframe, different shrouds, CC fork (4CS)
many north italian dealers confirm the presentation of M.Y. 2013 on the first week of september.
All models will be substantially a blue version of 6 days KTM. No more 70 degrees engine and no more 390 – 400 cc. Only 350, 450 and 500 cc.
The end of a brand?
many north italian dealers confirm the presentation of M.Y. 2013 on the first week of september.
All models will be substantially a blue version of 6 days KTM. No more 70 degrees engine and no more 390 – 400 cc. Only 350, 450 and 500 cc.
I hope the 2013 TE300 remains close to the same, maybe get the new clutch spring. If they change too much I’ll be looking for a used 2012.
I think the way KTM is handling the news of the 2013 Bergs is crap. We being the general public would like to know what is in store for the Bergs. I hope they left the 2 strokes alone for 2013. I have heard nothing but good things about the 12′s and am getting ready to pull the trigger on a TE 300 if they stay the same. If not I am going back to the gas gas.
Hi Brad
You make a good point. As we are primarily speculating about the new bikes, it is hard to say if they will retain features like the closed chamber forks.
Last week at Romaniacs, I spent time with the marketing people from Husaberg. No, they would not part with any details about the new models. But we did talk about the general state of the brand. From what I could infer, I think we are generally on the right track about what the 2013 models will be, that is to say, rebadged XC-W models with some minor tweaks. I have also been wondering if any of the US models will be street legal, that would certainly widen the appeal of the brand.
There were plenty of Bergs at the event, but almost all two strokes. Even now, no one seems to see much difference between the 2t Berg and the newer generation KTM xc-w. The KTM has a newer frame design, but there does not seem to be much feeling that it is significantly better.
I found a couple things confusing (inconsistency) in this summary – first you say it’s looking like things are to be reversed where Husaberg will be the budget vs premium brand, and later you’re talking about them being premium or getting premium components/features. I’m torn on this news where they’ll be blue KTM’s…..I love that new KTM 500 EXC but also loved the cool Berg motor even if it was heavier, I heard the 570 was beast for power, smooth, and agile due to c of g not to mention wicked ground clearance and that unique angled cradle for clearing rocks/logs the KTM didn’t have. If I would ever have bought a Berg, and I was close, I don’t think I would anymore and I’d just get the KTM. Though I do like blue better than orange so yah I guess they got me anyway. There’s just nothing exotic about Berg anymore if they’re ‘just’ a KTM.
That said, I know that new KTM is lighter and probably even feels lighter. And frankly does look awesome and is agile too.
And yes the yellow frame was not an improvement – too gaudy and I also much preferred the graphics on the 2009-2011 Bergs to 2012.
I love the yellow frame. That’s one of the things driving me to buy a TE300 over a 300XC.
the yellow frame is an eye sore.
The picture of “Spy photo for possible 2013 Husaberg 350″ is Swedish Enduro rider Emil Gustafsson. His dad, Thomas Gustafsson, is the team manager for Husabergs enduro team in the world championship. The bike on the picture is actually a KTM 250 that Emil has put alot of work into making his own signature Husaberg called “250 EG-F”. The reason is that he is to young to have a drivers license for bigger bikes and he does not want to ride a 125 2-stroke.
kent–beta will let you customer order your bike
http://www.americanbeta.com/byob/RR
the car makers let you order options why cant the bike makers do it.
Pick a suspension PDS or link, ohlin or wp, spring weights, exahust etc and pocket the money themselves
I was hoping KTM would make the berg a KTM with premium parts, or a build to order bike. not a place to use thier old parts
look for plastic subframe on the new bergs
I can tell you that the top picture is not a spy photo. Its from a race in Sweden. The rider is Husabergs presidents son, Emil Gustavsson. The bike is a 250.
I think LukasM should take over this site, sounds like He’s more informed than Chilly. Maybe the beanie hat is a bit tight this month?
Any news whean are they show the new models?
Regards,
Oh man, you are shooting down my hopes for some different displacements! But it probably makes the most financial sense to just use the existing ones. I like the 501 name, nice touch.
I have been told the 2013 parts book lists:
2013 FE 501, 450, 350, 250
2013 TE 300, 250
Regards,
Thomas
Hey Chilly,
Some of these rumors are wrong, the picture of the 4 stroke with the dual headers doesn’t show a Berg prototype, that’s just a modded KTM…
“that pic is not a 350 it is a 250 EG-F now you likely never heard of that model and dont think that will make it too production.
EG stands for Emil Gustavsson and F for four stroke name may sound familiar it is husa father Thomas’ son who is part of Husaberg team sweden bike is ktm 250 XC-F
Emil rode six days on that model and he had said in interview that it is a USA model now I can see him being embarrassed him riding ktm and being part of Husaberg team
at 13:33 in this video you see the bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJY-Ect5eh4”
Cheers,
Lukas
Thanks for the updates, Chilly..
thats shit i bought a berg to be differnt and a 570 to smoke everyone (which it does beautifully) was planning on upgrading/downgrading dunno what it would be to a new te300 for 2013 looks like itll be a gas gas instead
Sweet!
Nice info mate.
Chilly really has a cool site.
If you make it this way come ride with us!
Paul
Hi Paul, No, I have not sampled a TM. Ridden Honda, Yamaha, Husqvarna, BMW, Husaberg and settled on my 2010 450 EXC. Our Australian models are road registerable (come with all road lighting, etc) but are closer to the US XCRW model spec.
I had a KTM 300 EXC 2stroke but like the way the 4strokes deliver power. I had a 250EXCF which got stolen and I replaced it with the 450. I’ve got a fair bit of “bling” on the 450..Rekluse Zstart, left hand rear brake kit, JD Jet kit, Powerparts FMF slip-on exhaust, Power Now and Plus, alloy bash plate, re-worked suspension…ah..better stop..I’m starting to think what this has cost me, did I mention carbon fibre….but..I have a bike that is truly mine. It is magic to ride and is light years away from what the stock bike was like.
If you have the patience you can make any bike fit you. KTM just gave me the best start point.
Anyway, enjoy whatever new bike you get and just ride like you mean it!
Regards,
Daryl
KTM intelligently killed Husaberg..
now the choice in european offroad bikes will come down to colour.
If i’m going blue and european for 2013 and on, i’d rather it have some gold on it..
i am NOT buying a blue ktm. or an orange KTM ..
current bike: FE 450 2010
prev bike: FE 450 2004
future bike: probably the first electric NON-KTM bike to hit 40hp
Let’s hope Chilly can a few and see what they can do.
I like the Gassers too.
My 350 xcw is getting abused now, but I’m thinking about a two smoker after riding my buddies YZ 250. Just different, not better, still a personal choice.
Have you ridden any TM’s Daryl?
Hi Paul. Glad to send the links. I live near a TM dealer so I was interested to see that info was not that easy for you to find.
As for the 2013 KTM/Husaberg range, should be interesting. There are some rumours that Berg will be “entry level” spec KTM and KTM will get “premium” suspension and pricing.
Sad to see the 70 degree motor consigned to history, some say Kawasaki has patents that pre-date Husaberg for the concept. Maybe the patent lawyers were lining up KTM/Husaberg for a big pay day?
I was hoping the 70 degree would get the die-cast treatment for the cases and be lighter and even better handling. Not to be by the looks of it.
Thanks Daryl.
I think the issue seems to be lack of info, dealers, etc.
Thanks for the links.
TM is doing well in Europe.
Nice summary and predictions, Chilly.
I think you pretty much nailed it. Still hate to see the 70D engine fall by the wayside.
That being said, my ’12 350 EXC-F is *immensely* easier to work on.
Cheers! – ET
OK, I am confused. If Husaberg’s are blue and yellow, and the girls with the unbrellas are in blue….why are the girls in the bottom picture (pun intended) in black and red?
Oh yeah and the new bikes look and sound pretty cool too.
Yes, that would be a cool direction for them to go too, with a 290 or 300 four stroke.
I’d like to see a 300 4 stroke. Not that I didn’t like the 350 I rode, but a friend has a 250 xc-f with the TT300 big bore and it feels a lot lighter than the 350 and has almost as much power.
A 550+ would make a sweet D/S model for them.
Hi Paul, here’s some TM info from Oz.
http://www.transmoto.com.au/publish/bikes/9768228/2012-TM-Range-details-and-prices
If you can put up with our strange accent here’s a video on the 2011 250EN Fi you might like
http://www.transmoto.com.au/publish/bikes/9767109/Done-and-dusted—The-2011-TM-EN250Fi
Enjoy,
Daryl
Chilly-nice wrap on the in the future Berg’s. Nice umbrella’s.
Hey I heard from Pete at TM on my wish for a TM test. He wrote me and told me to have you contact him for a new one coming real soon. That is cool!
The fantic link at the Aussie site was all I could come up with. Never seen one in the states. Now you could have a Super Shootout with 2/4 strokes. Hey all I want is some good dirt and some time to ride. Best, Paul